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Custom Build with supplied material

posted Sep 10, 2014 05:31:14 by angev2
Left field. Im thinking sourcing all my parts and shipping them to a chinese seller to build a Chibson for me. Body wood- neck - maple cap- fretboard - fretwire - nut- and MOP. Id pick some pretty exotic material and I would only want a finished body\neck. Has anyone attempted something like this?
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ChibsonsandMore said Sep 12, 2014 00:42:34
I think it would be cheaper to find a local luthier to do this for you, to be perfectly honest.

I know that Rob Chapman got his prototype made by a local luthier for like $1,500 or something crazy, and that was them using their own materials. I think you'd be paying a TON of money for shipping, plus you're putting people that really don't have a lot of training.
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MichaelWamback said Sep 14, 2014 22:52:06
Based on personal experience, a lot of these sellers are reluctant to let you ship them custom parts. They will install parts for you that they themselves can source, such as actual Gibson bridges - but at a premium.

Think about it, if you were running a small factory producing illegal copyright infringing guitars, would you want to be handing out your name and address to someone you don't know?

So good luck - but don't be surprised if the builders are less than enthusiastic about the idea.
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angev2 said Sep 15, 2014 04:00:23
When I ordered my 1st guitar, I asked whether I could ship them hardware like a bridge, pickup and tuners to install for me. The seller obliged and supplied me with address details together with contact number. Two phone numbers.
When I later found out how much it would cost to ship, I reneged. It would have been more economical to get someone locally to install them.

I doubt very much I was supplied false details. And think about it - If local jurisdiction wanted to find them - I think they would have very little difficulty.

China was build on the foundation of plagiarism and western copyright breaching. I doubt they're considered criminals and persecuted in their own country for 're-engineering' western products.
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MichaelWamback said Sep 19, 2014 04:18:06
Yes and no.

If you have been following the history on here from day 1 - you will know that the Chinese government makes symbolic crackdowns periodically on these guys. It can involve fines or even some jail time. Usually it's in response to some political motivation, but there is undoubtedly some risk to these builders. (Or perhaps they couldn't afford to bribe the local cops one week - who knows.)

But I can tell you from personal experience that not all these sellers are eager to hand out their personal information.
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angev2 said Sep 19, 2014 23:32:21
If the Chinese authorities were serious about the counterfeit industry, sites like this would not exist.
"This tasteless cover is a good indication of the lack of musical invention within. The musical growth of this band cannot even be charted. They are treading water in a sea of retarded sexuality and bad poetry." - Marty DiBergi
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MichaelWamback said Sep 24, 2014 19:49:57
No - they are not serious about it. And I've long believed that the notion of intellectual property rights sort of goes against the entire philosophy of Communism, where everything should be "owned by the people" and not an individual. So I get why they don't see it as a priority.

Having said that, they do occasionally crack down on one or two of these sellers for some reason. A couple have even done some jail time. So they do tend to want to keep low visibility.

I'm guessing that there is a fair amount of bribery and corruption involved as well. So occasionally a crackdown can be leverage.

And there is also likely a periodic "crackdown" (which probably amounts to a slap on the wrist) in response to certain political situations and diplomatic pressure.

You know when this is happening, because a lot of the sellers will suddenly remove certain content from their pages and websites. For example. REG removed all the Gibson guitars from their site, but left everything else up. The only reason they would do that is if they were getting heat from somewhere.

And back in the early spring, some of the big sellers like Cathy and Guitar Monopoly asked to be removed from mention and temporarily closed shop for a few weeks. Again, only one probably reason for that, being that they were warned to go underground for a bit.

So it does happen from time to time.
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