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UK PARTS - bridge

posted Jul 09, 2014 19:52:26 by KeithWest
Hi Guys

So I am about to take the plunge an buy my first Chibson,

I hear alot about the bridges being poor quality in these guitars, but also, that a replacement epi or gibo bridge do not fit.

What size will i need and where in the UK can I get one from?
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vambostrausser said Jul 09, 2014 20:46:27
Do not buy anything until your guitar arrives,then measure and decide what style of bridge you require,and then come back to this forum and ask again.
THE CUSTOMER IS ALWAYS RIGHT,THE GIRL IS MUCH TOO YOUNG TO KNOW THE DIFFERENCE
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MichaelWamback said Jul 09, 2014 21:55:24
Usually a Tonepros or Gotoh bridge with the large "Metric" bushings are a drop on replacement. Always good to measure any part before ordering though.

The bridges that come with them will work fine, and will intonate properly - but they are definitely cheap quality and prone to rattle. Upgrading to a nice solid bridge will definitely make the guitar feel a lot better.
The two most important things to remember in life: "The only time it's acceptable to work with amateurs is if you are making porn." "If you want to work with clowns, join a circus."
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TrickyRicky said Jul 10, 2014 07:58:05
As suggested by vambostrausser, best buy a guitar first then see if anything needs sorting.

More than a few people on here were upset when their Chibson experience failed to meet their expectations. It appeared to mess up their lives, at least for a while. e.g. the order took weeks or months to arrive but the listing said 7 to 10 days, tuners didn't match the picture, hardware was a few millimetres out, $250 guitar wasn't a true replica of a $5000 one, tracking numbers caused stress and anxiety, shipping went via places no one had ever heard of and the the seller most likely was a scammer.

For a guitar to experiment on, a used Squier, an Epi like an LP100 or something similar off eBay may a better option. They're built to a standard, they won't have had quality control issues and they go for rummage bin money. Little lost if things go awry.

Too much thinking and worrying about these PRC instruments seems to make for mishaps. Those who'd sent lists of demands or plagued the sellers with e-mails (pre or during the process) are the ones who have had the biggest disappointments. I always say that if you are going to buy online from these websites you have to take a view. Michael repeatedly advises caution and states over and over that China is a different culture and to not expect western values to be matched.

But still people come here and fail to take it onboard. If they read through the forum they could find out everything they need to know, not start new threads which request hand holding or to be spoon fed. Not pointing the finger at anyone at all here, just general observation.
"For some, the safest thing is to steer clear of these guitars."
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MichaelWamback said Jul 11, 2014 14:49:58
Just pulled the Tonepros bridge off one of my Epis and tried it on the Chibson - perfect fit. So that is your easiest option for replacing a bridge. Shouldn't require any special tools if get one with factory notches (a lot of replacement bridges require you to file your own notches.) You'll just need to set it up for action height and set the intonation - but that's really easy. There are threads on here on how to set up the guitar - and let us know if you need any advice. :)
The two most important things to remember in life: "The only time it's acceptable to work with amateurs is if you are making porn." "If you want to work with clowns, join a circus."
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MustangJessie said Jul 11, 2014 15:24:59
Ive used Gotoh parts from Stewmac which dropped right on.

And theses from Faber:

ABRM-59NG, Nickel plated, nickel plated saddles, gloss finish
NEW!!! E-sert NG, Bridge Stud/Adapter, Nickel plated, gloss

These are the Gotoh parts:

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JamesZhejiang said Jul 12, 2014 04:52:56
Hey Ricky, don't take it too bad my friend. In Chinese they say 林子大什么鸟都有。 In a big forest you can find every kind of bird.
There is still a strong core of people on this forum willing to help. With the new FAQ in place, people may be able to stop asking the same questions (again, not talking about the OP here).
Thanks to Michael for the advice above, I just bought a tonepros bridge for the es335 i bought a little while ago. Hopefully it will slot right in.
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James
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MichaelWamback said Jul 12, 2014 16:24:08
You are going to love the Tonepros bridge. When you get it, hold it in one hand and your Chibson bridge in the other. You will likely notice how much heavier the Tonepros bridge is. Then use your thumbs to wiggle the saddles a little bit. The Chibson bridge will be the one with the saddles wiggling all over the place - the Tonepros will be the one where the saddles are impossible to move. Look at the notches in the bridges (assuming you got a factory notched bridge). You will notice how deep and sharp the grooves are in the Chibson bridge, and how shallow and smooth they are in the Tonepros bridge.

The bridge slots are, in my opinion, always too deep in the Chibson (and many ABR-1) bridges. They really just need to be deep enough to grab the string. It's the same as nuts, you bury the string and you loose some sustain.

Between the fact that the bridge has more mass, is more solid and has shallower slots - you are going to notice a lot more sustain.

The Tonepros bridge is not sharp on the edges, so you won't be uncomfortable laying your hand on the bride to palm mute.

Faber bridges are also extremely good quality, but do tend to be a lot more expensive than Gotoh/Tonepros. Great bridges though.
The two most important things to remember in life: "The only time it's acceptable to work with amateurs is if you are making porn." "If you want to work with clowns, join a circus."
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JamesZhejiang said Jul 13, 2014 11:21:36
Michael, do you think there is any point in upgrading the tailpiece? its not expensive, i guess 150cny, but there is no point in spending the money if it's not needed. thanks
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James
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MichaelWamback said Jul 13, 2014 13:43:59
My opinion (and some will disagree) is that it does nothing to change the tone of the guitar. With a solid body electric, the biggest elements of the tone are the nut, the bridge, the electronics and the strings. So long as the tailpiece you have is doing it's job of holding the strings in place, then I don't think you need to change it.
The two most important things to remember in life: "The only time it's acceptable to work with amateurs is if you are making porn." "If you want to work with clowns, join a circus."
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JamesZhejiang said Jul 13, 2014 14:07:19
great then i can save some money
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James
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TrickyRicky said Jul 15, 2014 21:31:49
Thank you James, good fellow :)

Actually my main interest is music: playing, writing, performing. I’m not bothered about the position of tone pots or the impedance of pick ups, though I realise these things are very important to some. However, if it looks good to me and plays well out of the box, I’m ahead of the game.

A choice of instruments can inspire alternative interpretations. An a LP or a 335 or something exotic moves me in different directions using different sounds to generate distinct tonalities, melodic and instrumental.

I keep on buying new guitars, but what I *really* need are new ideas. These products help a bit, plus they’re good fun - if not a bit frustrating at times :)
"For some, the safest thing is to steer clear of these guitars."
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JamesZhejiang said Jul 15, 2014 23:54:39
Hi Ricky,

I'm coming from the same place. I remember someone on the les paul forum saying "I'm a guitarist, not an historian". How close a guitar is to a guitar made in 1959 is not that important to me either...though I realise these things are very important to some.

The ability to buy a customized guitar at a really low price means we're so lucky. Having something special inspires me to write songs, although I'm afraid the money I spent on guitars is more than I've made back by song writing!
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James
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