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posted Apr 30, 2014 22:19:12 by dino0000007
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ChinaGuitar Sceptic said Apr 30, 2014 22:51:34
This is what idiots who order 180 fakes at a time deserve. I hope they prosecute as this fool is obviously in the market for dealing and ripping people off selling them as the real deal. Shame on them!!

Thanks for the story and post Dino - very interesting.

Cheers,

CGS

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dino0000007 said Apr 30, 2014 22:58:53
Ya I guess 180 is too many at once...lol
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TomS. said Apr 30, 2014 23:11:48
I may have missed something, but I don't see where the article indicates this was one person. Sounds like they were seized over a period of time.
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SteveTebble said Apr 30, 2014 23:45:04
"... I don't see where the article indicates this was one person" - TomS.


I think the phrase "all with business cards inside the packaging linking them to a single website" drops strong hints in that direction.
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TomS. said May 01, 2014 00:24:29
Steve,
I took it to mean that those business cards were from the same dealer/source not one buyer.
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TrickyRicky said May 01, 2014 05:35:05
Article says it's a bulk mail centre so perhaps it was a bulk delivery. Perhaps more details will surface soon but it's not *that* newsworthy so maybe not.

Someone on the comments section on the same page is asking for the website where they can buy one of these guitars!
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SteveTebble said May 01, 2014 07:41:38
"I took it to mean that those business cards were from the same dealer/source not one buyer." - TomS.

I agree Tom - I took it to mean that too, the inference being that if all 180 guitars came from one seller, it made it unlikely they were all bought by different people. Be one hell of a coincidence if they were, eh!
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MichaelWamback said May 01, 2014 15:34:02
Just makes my argument that ordering multiple guitars in a short period of time can get you flagged by Customs (we are living in a computer age.) I've always told people the best thing is to order one now and again, spacing the orders apart. Clearly, 185 guitars means you were going to defraud people with them, so I'm glad he got caught. But it sucks for those of us who just want a fun little project for ourselves that we will never sell to anyone.

I also suspect they will go after the buyer for attempt to distribute counterfeit goods in this case.
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ChibsonsandMore said May 01, 2014 17:41:13
I don't know why the guitars were passing through New Jersey, unless they were indeed going to a bulk center because they came from the same place.

Just sort of furthers my own point of not buying branded fakes anymore. I just want nice guitars with my logos on them, especially if I can make some slight alterations to the headstock shape or other features to make it "not a copy".
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HtesJoseph said May 01, 2014 22:58:33
Doesn't Jersey have the "docks"? Perhaps an order that size was coming over on a cargo ship and they got the whole container, the article was pretty vauge,do you think it was one shipment ,or a culmination of days worth, I don't know, either way if these were individual seizures then I feel bad for the induviduals,but if this was a reseller looking to get over than they got what they deserved
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David Ledbetter said May 01, 2014 23:00:37
Better get 'em while you can boys...
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Rick Worthley said May 02, 2014 01:09:33
I'm still going to order one.
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sjcrowe6 said May 02, 2014 03:41:56
The headline says 185 guitars VALUED at ONE MILLION DOLLARS. That means each guitar is worth $5,400 on average? What BS, reminds me of how the media also over states the value of drug busts.
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ChibsonsandMore said May 02, 2014 05:34:43
At $300 a pop, which is expensive by Chibson standards, that's only $55,500.

Even if these people were aiming to flip them for $800 each to rip off pawn shops, still way below at $148,000.

As sj said, total media exaggeration (or exaggeration on behalf of CBP).
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twault said May 02, 2014 13:02:24
I have one coming soon. I don't think it has left China, but this is concerning, as it will most likely come through New York. I had them leave the "Gibson" logo, "Made in the USA," and the truss rod cover off. It does have the diamond still. Hope that will be enough to make them let it pass.
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