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UK Customs again....

posted Apr 26, 2014 11:00:00 by GsxJones
****'s!!!! *******!!!
I received a letter from the Royal mail informing me that to get my guitar,I need to pay import VAT to the value of £49.16 plus a Royal mail clearance fee of £13.50. Total £62.66.
Im not especially happy,but Ive paid it to guarantee delivery for Tuesday coming.
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GrandSpector said Apr 26, 2014 11:15:58
yeah, same here...I have to pay approx. the same amount.
ah well, that's what we have to deal with in Europe I assume :)
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GsxJones said Apr 26, 2014 11:30:27
Id like to know how they work it out,as I thought the guitar's were sent with either a really low value or as a gift? Its paid now,so let's see what happens with the next guitar that Cathy is busy with for me.


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ChinaGuitar Sceptic said Apr 26, 2014 14:34:08
I have said numerous times you will ALWAYS pay VAT and Parcelforce fee in the UK. Parcelforce admin charge is always £13.50 and the VAT is worked out on the quoted value of the goods on the packet, the weight of the package and the postage paid at the sellers end.

You can ring and collect and pay at the local distribution centre if you want to. So no need to wait until Tuesday if it is showing at depot for outward delivery. Take your tear open customs charge letter with you and proof of ID plus a payment method [They].

As you've paid already on this one you are likely to have to wait for it to be sent out for delivery now.
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GrandSpector said Apr 26, 2014 14:41:09
in my case they asked for a proof of purchase, e.g. a bill
they wouldn't release it before I provide the information
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ChibsonsandMore said Apr 26, 2014 14:43:08
I know I'll knock myself in the head ffor saying this, but so far in the USA I've never paid a customs fee on any of my guitars. We're not talking one single one, I've ordered and received twelve. They were all marked as a "gift" ranging from $75-95 USD. Of course the customs regulations here in the states are different from the UK.

At least you all in the UK seem to have consistency. The US Customs seem to let most through without fees, then randomly ding people with charges as they feel like it.

I've got an Edwards on the way from Japan, which was tagged with the correct price, so I'm expecting to pay the 5% or whatever it is in taxes as soon as it arrives.
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eatmydoo said Apr 26, 2014 15:59:18
I read somewhere (might have been on here) that if you have an item addressed to 2 people it will double your import vat+duty allowance,not sure if that's 100% true but it stands to reason

i'll ask cathy to do this for me when she ships my riceman next week and report on the results if any.
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vambostrausser said Apr 26, 2014 16:15:47
This the last time I am going to write this,so please pass it on as the message does not seem to sink in.

Your guitar has then been valued at approx £250,which is higher than the value paid,is it not,but I don't suppose anyone will want to complain,just in case they decide to hold them in the future,so it a case of PAY UP AND SHUT UP

UK Duty and VAT

Duty is applied to goods over the value of £135, @ 3.5% for electric guitars from China .The value is calculated on the goods + the shipping cost.Vat is then applied @ 20% to the whole amount.Parcel Force charge is for paying HMRC the duty and vat on your behalf,which is zero rated.

HMRC KNOW THAT THE COST OF GOODS ARE NOT GOING TO BE £35 AND ONE LOOK ON THE SHIPPING WAYBILL WILL ALSO TELL THE COST OF SHIPPING,SO EVEN IF THEY TAKE THE COST OF £35 FOR THE GUITAR, THE SHIPPING WILL ALWAYS BRING THAT OVER THE AMOUNT OF WHAT IS NON DUTY GOODS.

So it will be for example guitar + shipping =£250 duty will be £8.25 total £258.25 VAT will be at 20% = £51.64 + Parcel force Charge which on average is £13.50 Total £65.14

They might just add a higher amount to the total cost and just calculated the VAT with out adding the duty in,because it will be more,so will read as follows

CUSTOMS DUTY £0.00
EXCISE DUTY £0.00
IMPORT VAT £51.64
OTHER £0.00
CLEARANCE FEE (ZERO RATED FOR VAT PURPOSES) £13.50
TOTAL £65.14

TO EVERYONE
PLEASE COPY OR POST ANYWHERE YOU SEE FIT TO SAVE ME EVER REPEATING THIS

Thank You

P.s always remember that if everyone paid the correct amount of taxes,we would all pay less,and by paying them,it keeps you safe and well to buy more Chinese guitars.




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THE CUSTOMER IS ALWAYS RIGHT,THE GIRL IS MUCH TOO YOUNG TO KNOW THE DIFFERENCE
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GsxJones said Apr 26, 2014 17:33:40
Ive never seen the above comment,so thank for sharing for the last time. lol.


I actually paid £256 from Cathy with uprade/customisation.

Ive another guitar on order from Cathy,so at least I know know that I should factor in another £60-odd for the cost's.
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vambostrausser said Apr 26, 2014 17:47:26
To FjgsxJones
I am sorry it is worded like that,but it has been posted many times.So at least you know why and how the DUTY/COST is calculated.Even at £300 plus you still have a guitar that is unique to you,no other maker can or will offer you that for the money.
Hope it turns up on Tuesday and is good as the photos
THE CUSTOMER IS ALWAYS RIGHT,THE GIRL IS MUCH TOO YOUNG TO KNOW THE DIFFERENCE
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MichaelWamback said Apr 27, 2014 05:28:06
I agree - ask Gibson Custom Shop to build you a one-of guitar and see what they quote you for price. You wouldn't get any custom shop in the US to build you a guitar for less than $1,000 - and you'd be very lucky to get one for that. Still a heck of a deal.
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KevSmith said Apr 27, 2014 07:28:36
When I got my 'Custom' the total import and tax was £43.80. Why that is different I know not. Could be it be because I just live in a place that is easy to deliver too?
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RoyColley said May 02, 2014 16:16:17
I guess Im really lucky as I didn't pay anything. To be honest I knew my guitar was on its way but it arrived real fast.
But I did notice on the box it was put down as a starter Guitar and they lowered the price and of course it was post shown as free.
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GsxJones said May 04, 2014 21:40:12
Thank you,agreed,even at £300 it's the bargain of the week for me!
I had a friend look at the Floyd Les paul today,and he asked the question,"Dare I ask how much that cost?",I replied "three". lol. He then commented that when he returned home he would tell his Mrs he had been holding a £3000 guitar. LOL. I forgot to correct him and his mistake. lol. £300 not £3000. Its our secret on this forum. lol.
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RIMS said May 05, 2014 22:26:33
My tuppence worth!

Just bought a Chibson PRS. I enclose a picture of the documentation so that others can get a sense of what to expect.

Total fee was £60.36, on a declared value of $185, and postage of 1259 yuan.

I won't get into discussion about the merits or otherwise of funding HMG Inc, and cannot argue the legality. However it is always uncomfortable to be led to believe one thing, only to be disappointed. As with everyone else I expect, I was told by email, (as well as the website advert) that it would be declared as a gift of nominal value, and minimal if any tax would be payable. That is not to imply condoning that deception (nor did I request it), but the statement itself was not adhered to, as you can see from the picture.

Whatever the rights or wrongs, it can never be good sales technique to leave a customer feeling disappointed or manipulated.

Ho hum
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ChibsonsandMore said May 06, 2014 00:45:31
To be fair, they should be putting in the exact amount you paid for the item on the declaration. Failure to do so is actually against many of their "terms" and in some places is probably illegal.

It seems that the USA is a lot more relaxed in terms of charging customs fees. I just had my $1,065 Edwards explorer pass through Chicago customs with fully declared pricing and didn't get dinged with charges at all, yet I know people who have been charged $50 to get their Chibsons delivered.
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