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500k pots for Strat w dual rails?

posted Jan 17, 2014 02:51:28 by stanton.kramer
I thought I was done and happy with my Squier Strat upgrade. I put Dragonfire dual rails in and while it was a major improvement in the tone from the Squier pickups and even the MIM pickups, somehow it is still missing some "sizzle". No I'm not looking for the single coil crystalline sound typical of a Strat. I have that in my MIM with Dimarzios. But I've got a lower end Ibanez with Powersound 1 & 2 pickups which I think I like better... But could the answer be the pots?

Will 500k pots add some life to the sound or will this be a waste of time and money? Do I need all three changed out or just the volume or just the tone? Will TBX tone controllers accomplish what I'm looking for on the 1000k side?

Just wondering. Any thoughts?
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MichaelWamback said Jan 17, 2014 04:04:53
Worth a try - pots aren't that expensive. You could also try changing out the value of the capacitor.

Not much experience with the Dragonfire rails, so don't know if they output like a single coil or more like a humbucker. If more humbuckerish, then I would definitely think 500k pots might be worth a try. It might really open them up.

I have Dragonfire in my Goth LP and SG - the X2N knockoffs in the LP and the Loudmouth with the oversize poles in the SG. Really like them, but definitely hot pickups. When you consider it was about $40 for the pair of them though - a pretty good deal for the price. I'm thinking they are made by the same plant that makes GFS - which I've heard is Artec who I believe are based out of Korea.
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stanton.kramer said Jan 17, 2014 04:17:37
Not much experience with the Dragonfire rails, so don't know if they output like a single coil or more like a humbucker
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I can only say that they are not anything like my Dimarzio Area pickups in my other Strat (58/67/61). The Dimarzios sound very much like single coil. So much so that I wired it for dual tone (bridge tone control) and changed to .47UF caps.

The Dragonfires are wired the same way as the other Strat, 7-way, dual tone, but with all Fender 250k pots. So I guess they are more humbucker like as they are in fact mini-humbuckers. They have a 12k output but lack the crispness that both my LP and Ibanez have with humbuckers and 500k pots (but I put a TBX controller in the Ibanez).

So I guess that's it... It's worth a try. Another wiring job for a snowy day. Just need to get out and buy those pots. Will Fender tone knobs fit on Gibson pots?

Thanks.
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MichaelWamback said Jan 17, 2014 14:49:37
Fender does make a 500k pot with a solid shaft. You can find plenty of them on Ebay for about $5.50 each.
The two most important things to remember in life: "The only time it's acceptable to work with amateurs is if you are making porn." "If you want to work with clowns, join a circus."
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stanton.kramer said Jan 17, 2014 14:57:58
Thanks Michael. I'll look at it. Do you think there is any merit in looking at TBX tone pots?

Unrelated.... I'd like to amend your signature line...

"If you want to work with clowns, enter politics."
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MichaelWamback said Jan 17, 2014 15:26:06
I don't have a lot of experience with the TBX pots, so I'll defer to your expertise on those. I did a fret dress to get rid of the grooves in the frets of an old Telecaster that had those in it. Had to clean up the jack a bit, and noticed them when I lifted the control plate.

I would definitely be interested in trying them though.

And I'm sorry, but clowns are at least trying to be funny as they bumble about. Politicians, on the other hand, there's just not much amusing about them.
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