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Custom build your Chinese master piece....

posted Oct 25, 2013 06:02:30 by Stefan Olsson
I believe any of these places are open to custom work....You dont like the color, they change it, you dont like something, they change it.....Thats more than gibson or fender would ever do....Unless maybe you deal directly with the custom shop. Try call Gibson and ask to change the burst on a guitar, Im pretty sure you'll get the finger and a turn by turn direction to the nearest guitar center.

And these guys do it for pennies on the dollar....

Sure, is a a USA Gibson better?

NO DOUBT.

But take a look inside your home, I bet 90 % of the shit you own is from China already. Is any of you guys old enough to remember when Japanese stuff was considered crap?

Well, there you go...its just a different country on the upswing this time.

I'll say, these babies, might be the next (Ibanez, Burny (insert name here) lawsuit models of the future....GET EM WHILE THERE HOT!
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MichaelWamback said Oct 25, 2013 15:42:21
I'm sure Gibson would like to sue them in Chinese court, but I suspect that's difficult. I'm also willing to wager than any sanctions a Chinese court would impose would be pennies on the dollar compared the the US courts. If Gibson could have successfully sued to shut these places down, they would have already - and would be boasting about it all over the media.

I also sense that the quality of these guitars has been vastly improving. They are not perfect by any means, and most still take some work to make them play well. But they are not total pieces of junk either. As a friend said, wood is wood and fret wire is fret wire.

The only thing standing between them and Epi/Gibson quality is a PLEK machine in many cases. If I were these guys, I would invest in one of those and charge $100 extra for the guitar to be set up on it. The PLEK cuts perfect frets and nuts each and every time to within 1/1000 of an inch. You would be guaranteed to get a guitar that would not need to be adjusted, other than to suit your particular preference in terms of relief and action height. And $100 is less than a good tech would charge for the same work.
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TelepathicTrafic said Oct 26, 2013 22:43:57
Also to mention, that Gibson is selling a SHIT TON of after market parts these days ... its off the charts. I mean how many people need replacement parts for their Genuine guitars. I'm sure most of these parts aren't going to local luthiers to attach to projects, they are being used to upgrade Asian imports of all makes and sizes! Not that bad of a deal for them ...

That being said some of those Nitro finishes on Gibsons are fucking out of this world, no way you can get that from China as of yet. I mean the finishes on these Chibsons are great, but man ...
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MichaelWamback said Oct 26, 2013 22:53:43
Don't know how good it would be, but I did note that Rare Electric are advertising that they do hand sanded and polished nitro finishes on their 59 Les Paul, as well as some of their other guitars. I suspect you aren't going to get a lot of extra work on a guitar that cost under $300 shipped, but if you are willing to pay a bit extra I'm sure that the quality of the finish would go up. My friend is threatening to order one of the 59 LPs from REG. I hope he does, since I would love to see how well the finish is done on the guitar. Would also be curious to see if for the extra bucks you get a decent cap on the guitar, rather than a paper thin laminate.
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TelepathicTrafic said Oct 26, 2013 23:49:05
Both my Chibsons had a thin veneer top to them ... however my second had a 10mm maple cap. It appears to be hit and miss with the caps ... some are great some are lacking.
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Stefan Olsson said Oct 27, 2013 02:10:59
Hey Telepathic, I have to say that this finish on my guitar, is as close to the finest finish I've seen on any guitar. Im at guitar center in Hollywood all the time, trying amps, looking at Les Pauls I cant afford etc. Next time im there im definately will eyeball the Les Pauls with a NEW eye.
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sjcrowe6 said Oct 27, 2013 05:41:33
Rather than purchasing a PLEK machine they could take advantage of their low labor rates and hire or train some skilled luthiers to do a setup on each guitar before shipping. I would gladly pay an additional 20% (only $50-$60) for the setup service.
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MichaelWamback said Oct 27, 2013 06:13:24
What was funny about mine is that they had actually had someone level the frets, but they didn't crown them. You could see lots of flat where the file had passed over them. Wasn't a big deal, since I have a good crowning file. Had them all rounded before lunch :)
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Metalcored00d said Oct 08, 2014 10:53:06
Hello guys

Don't know if this is the right post to reply with this question, but anyway, here goes:

I ordered a guitar from Cathy on aliexpress and communication is excellent! I asked for a mother of pearl diamond headstock and gibson logo. Now she replied to me that they have to lacquer the logo, to hide it, so the customs won't seize my counterfeit guitar.

She replied: "this guitar we have to black lacquer to cover head top logo..and when u get taht guitars,ask some professional person to remove that black lacqeur for u ,then gibson logo will apper,if this ok for u?
u can use lacquer thinner+thin sanding paper+polishing,so this need ask some professional person to do that..
And this way can be safely make sure pass thru your Belgium customs.."

Should I still go through with this order, can I trust this lacquer thingy?

Btw I uploaded the picture of what I want it to look like :').

Grtz
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filthypit said Oct 08, 2014 17:25:44
We have abt 12 customized chinese guitars, and have seen/played many more over the years - i gotta say that only abt 30% actually play WELL... by 'well' i mean smoothly, comfortably consistantly, and with good tone.

And that's AFTER a good fret dressing, complete replacement of electronics, pickups & hardware & set-up.

Some require multiple fret dressings and never quite settle into comfort zone.

Walk into the biggest guitar superstore & play a few off the top shelf ~ you'll prolly be disappointed what your $2000 will buy these days. So after waiting for 2.5years for a black Guild Starfire bass (frm fender), turning to PRC guitar builders was a no brainer.

I'd rather weed out the crappy $300 guitars than get spanked by gibson+guitarctr

:-/
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20thcenturysongs said Oct 09, 2014 01:56:33
I've inquired about having a Howard Roberts Fusion-style guitar built, but I haven't been brave enough to pull the trigger. Does anybody have experience with truly custom work? I want a smaller hollow - somewhere between the HR and maybe an Ibanez Artcore AG95... As a matter of principle I'd maybe feel a little better about buying a guitar that wasn't a straight copy, but I'm not fooling myself that I'm on a moral high horse or anything by any means.
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